I haven't been to recent selectboard meetings, but I went tonight.  I can report that, sadly, things have only changed for the worse.

First, Turner announced at the start of the meeting that he was banning any recording of it because the recording people hadn't indicated they were going to do so BEFORE the meeting, as opposed to at the outset of the meeting.  They read outloud the wording in the open meeting law, which does say "before," and by God we selectmen are going to enforce it against these disrespectful citizens who only want to trap us with our own words! 

There followed a rather bizarre discussion about Robert's Rules of Order, with the selectmen at first indicating they were going to follow it, but, well, not all the time.  When Weigle asked which edition of Robert's Rules they were going to follow, they admitted they didn't know there were several editions.  Pollard tried to bail them out with a rambling speech about how meetings should be (must be?) conducted, but was not terribly persuasive. How can you be persuasive when the real purpose of the selectboard's actions is to shut the citizenry up (at least those citizens who the selectboard doesn't like)?

Cumsky presented a letter outlining a conversation he'd had with an Assistant AG indicating that the open meeting law required that members of the public be able to hear the proceedings and that the selectboard must provide a room with adequate seating for the expected audience. Here it is:

That prompted Pollard to do a song and dance about how his prior contrary advice wasn't really to the contrary.  I can't wait to compare the transcripts.

What's so really, really bad about all this?  The selectmen have moved completely into the bunker, so the usual useful interplay between the citizens and the board - known as democracy - has been eliminated.  And pity poor Mr. Pollard, who has to defend the selectboard in implementing these attacks on the way democracy should work.

Then Brazie announced that one of the selectboard's ploys - to raid unused community policing grant money to pay for an extension of the temporary chief's tenure so they wouldn't have to ask the taxpayers to pony up at the special town meeting - probably wasn't going to work.  The finance committee had made inquiries at the state level and was told that that unused  money couldn't be used in that way because it probably had to be paid back to the state.   That really upset Flynn, who demanded to know if the nosy finance committee had put discussing that matter on their agenda!  Flynn apparently thinks it's okay to spend money illegally if you can just slip it by. 

Flynn then used that problem to launch into a tirade about Reena, and demanded to meet on what to do about her - i.e., let's fire her - by the end of this week.  He found it damnable that Reena hadn't spent the grant money and therefore put us into this terrible situation.  Of course, he overlooks that if she had spent the money it wouldn't be available, now would it?  (And he thinks a town employee should be criticized for NOT spending money?) It's the selectboard that applies for grants and is supposed to monitor them, not town employees; that's called accountability.  And there were several specific discussions with THIS selectboard about using that grant money for radio upgrades at the new police station, so they can't plead ignorance.  How wrong headed can you get? 

A bit of sad news is that Jim Fountain, the long time dump attendant, is quitting.  Much sadder is the selectboard's reaction.  Brazie announced that there was no need to advertise the position because a number of people had already indicated they were interested.  The fact that someone who is an outsider might be a better choice seems to be of no concern to this selectboard.  Cronyism reigns.  Indeed, when Cumsky asked what the board's policy was about advertising open positions, the response was that advertising was done only when there weren't people on the inside who were interested in the job.  I admire the honesty, but this is a really stupid way to do business, and the result is predictable.  It just worsens the "us against them" mentality that permeates town hall.  And there's no reason to hope that it's going to get better.  There's only one way to accomplish that.

 

Bucknell Matter Resolved? Redux

The answer to the question in the title to this posting is obvious.  Not on your bippy.  But here's a little twist on the subject:  At tonight's selectboard meeting I handed the reporter from the Record a note saying the Record had reported that a deal had been struck between the selectboard and Reena, quoting Brazie and Turner to that effect, and yet people who have talked to Reena report that it's news to her.  Where's the truth, I asked the reporter.  I expected him to bite into that tidbit like a bulldog.  What was his response?  "Call the paper," he said;  "I didn't write the story."  I guess the reporters don't talk to each other.

Bucknell Matter Resolved?

The Berkshire Record reported this week that an agreement had been reached between the selectboard and Reena Bucknell, citing statements from both Bruce Turner and Mary Brazie.  Don't believe it.  There's no agreement.  Why are Turner and Brazie saying so?

Recalls

Recalls of elected officials are permitted in Massachusetts.  Many years ago, Egremont went from a system of electing all three selectmen for one year to a system with rolling three-year terms.  Since that meant the town could be stuck with a bad choice for three years, David Campbell proposed adding a recall provision to the town bylaws.  It generated insufficient interest and did not get the required two-thirds vote at the town meeting at which it was proposed.  (I voted for it.)

 

 Recall provisions in town bylaws often result from special statutes adopted by the legislature that expressly permit a town to adopt such provisions, which are often set forth in detail in the special statute itself.  That process normally occurs when a town asks its elected state representatives to introduce legislation and shepherd it through the legislature.   Some people believe that procedure is necessary for a recall provision to be valid.  Others believe that the "home rule"  provisions of state law empower a town to adopt a recall bylaw without specific state authorization.  I'm not certain what the state attorney general's position is.  A town could always adopt a recall bylaw and then see if the attorney general approves it.   I think that's the approach David Campbell was taking.

 

 

 

 

 

A Conversation Between A and Z (Richard Allen and Kevin Zurrin) About the Police

RICHARD:  Are you going to Reena's hearing on Monday, Kevin?   KEVIN: I’d only miss it if there were tire tracks across my chest. It'll be entertaining to say the least, and we'll finally hear Reena's side of the story.  I’m pretty sure she’ll want the hearing be open.   RICHARD:  That’s what I hear.  And I think there'll be lots of fireworks, maybe more than at Tanglewood on the fourth of July.   KEVIN:  I’ve heard that Charlie and perhaps the BoS has been out to get Reena for quite awhile.   RICHARD:  At least two of the members have been.  Maybe Turner not as much.   KEVIN: The more I look into this matter, the stranger it looks.  For instance, the story that the BoS wasn’t aware of the February 19th “mutiny” until the officers showed up in full regalia is nonsense.   RICHARD:   I agree. If you read the transcripts of that meeting and a later one – both posted on my blog – there are some glaring inconsistencies.  And there are too many other things that just don’t add up.    KEVIN:  YA THINK? I remember Charlie saying to me at a BoS meeting, when I quoted what he had said; “Do you have those notes written down somewhere?” and “I mean, if you can give me the exact recording of what I said I’m happy to stand up to it.” What isn’t heard on the recording, for whatever reason, is my saying I would testify to it in a court of law, which prompted Turner to say “that’s a no.”   RICHARD:  He’s not the only one whose stories have changed.  I can’t wait til Monday.  There may be lots of juicy revelations.   KEVIN:   I don’t know what you think will happen at the hearing on Monday; but don’t get your hopes up. The BoS has been running this game for a long time.   RICHARD:  I’m not sure what procedure they’ll try to use.   KEVIN: Neither are they, but be assured that they’ll make it up as they go.   RICHARD:  I think there may be lots of folks there, but remember, at your “lynching” they weren’t allowed to speak.   KEVIN: To be fair Richard, some people were allowed to speak; including you, right after you were verbally assaulted by Charlie.  But seriously, aren’t the views of townspeople important, especially in a small town where the police are supposed to be neighborly?   RICHARD:  I think so.  And Charlie has said “We’re still willing to have a public meeting with the chief.  If the chief chooses to do that, we will be more than happy to have that public meeting so that she can address each and every one of those charges.  We want this to be, and what we have tried to do, is keep this whole process as open and honest as we possibly could.”   KEVIN: That means people will be allowed to speak if Reena allows it, doesn’t it?   RICHARD:  Yes, if you believe Charlie means what he says.   KEVIN:  REALLY RICHARD!  Did you not see my tongue firmly planted in my cheek?  What people have to understand about Charlie is that the operative phrase is “as we possibly could,” not “open and honest”. Charlie thinks my lynching was as honest and open as he possibly could. Eye witnesses are quoted as saying “That pathetic excuse for a purported hearing was pre ordained - It was a mockery of a hoax of a sham of a hoax cloaked in a tissue of lies”   RICHARD:   Do you know anything more about the Pilone firing?   KEVIN:  A bit. Jeremy and I have spoken a few times since the “hearing.”  But I’m not talking much about it until I see what happens on Monday. I’ve heard rumors that the chief and Jeremy may join forces. You know the old saying, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Wouldn’t that be a hoot?   RICHARD:  I’d like to know what standards the selectboard is applying.  They fired Pilone but didn’t fire Carlson, even though the acting chief said to fire both.  What was the difference?  How do they decide?  And how are they going to apply whatever standard it is to Reena?   KEVIN: Richard, you are making the mistake of applying logic.  The BoS acts arbitrarily and capriciously.  I don’t think they know or care about logic. If they applied logic they would be a little more consistent in their inconsistencies.   RICHARD:   Yeah, you got that right. By the way, have you found out anything about the evidence locker story?   KEVIN: Yes Richard, and contrary to Mary’s claim, my sources say it did in fact happen and there is a lot going on that we will not hear about from the BoS or the EPD. However, baseless claims are not fact. Evidence is fact and when the facts come out the BoS may have a lot to answer for. I asked for the police report and was told I can’t have it because it falls within the exemption clause of the Massachusetts Public Records Law.   RICHARD:  Another glaring example of our selectboard’s “transparency.”   KEVIN:  So the really big question here is this:  If the BoS lets Reena go, what will she do?   RICHARD:  I’m pretty sure she’ll sue.    KEVIN: With my best deer in the headlight look I say, I’m shocked to hear you say that Richard.   Richard: Yes and when she does it’s going to cost the town a pretty penny.    KEVIN: The Selectmen are probably thinking, so what. The insurance will pay for it; and whatever isn’t covered, the taxpayers will just have to pay.   RICHARD:  Our town insurance is “experience rated.”  That means the insurance may pay it today but our premiums will go up – maybe way up – to pay for it later.  There’s no free lunch. I think that folks who go to the hearing should remind the selectmen that there’s likely to be a BIG cost to letting Reena go.    KEVIN: Yes, but that’s only if they’re allowed to speak. Face it, once the BoS embarked on this journey they were committed. Handling the thing correctly would have been dicey enough; the way the BoS handled the situation they have no way to even save face.    RICHARD:  Probably not.   KEVIN:  So correct me if I’m wrong, Richard, but this is the pattern: the selectmen create a big mess, they mishandle it from the get go and expect the taxpayers to bail them out?   RICHARD:  Unless they do the right thing and pay it themselves.  Fat chance.  And when they don’t volunteer, I’ll be thinking tar and feathers.   KEVIN:  You may be thinking tar and feathers, but like Jack Muskrat, I think the BoS will get off without any consequences. The town has not yet been sufficiently horrified by the BoS’s behavior.    RICHARD:  Time will tell.

 

 

Officer Pilone and the Selectboard

After the June 12 selectboard meeting that resulted in Officer Pilone's ouster, Selectman Turner spoke about it to the Berkshire Eagle.  That was a mistake.   Here's why:

 

And here's the

And here's the selectboard's response:

 

 

Another day, another lawsuit.  Some people should learn to keep their mouths shut.

 

 

 

 

More on the Selectboard's Mishandling of the Police Situation

Many of us have had suspicions about the explanations from members of the selectboard about how the police debacle unfolded.  Here's the transcript of a meeting that came after the suspension of the chief in which various citizens questioned what had happened.  There are discrepancies between what's said at this meeting and what was said at the suspension meeting. 

Also interesting is Selectman Flynn's attempt to elevate policeman Pilone to the chief's position by, among other things, saying how great he is.  How quickly things can change.  Would you like to explain Mr. Flynn?  I won't hold my breath.

Here's the transcript:

Mr. Swanson:            The complaint that was a petition that was filed with the Select Board that lead to the removal of Reena Bucknell, will that be made public?

Selectman Turner:            Well, there wasn’t really a petition, that was a vote of no confidence by the police officer.

Mr. Swanson:            So, it’s an oral—

Selectman Brazie:            No, it was written.  And it’s already been made public.  It was attached to the minutes that, so, would you like a copy?

Mr. Swanson:            And the second question is, once this petition was submitted, what was the process that the select board went through that led to the decision to suspend Ms. Bucknell, Chief Bucknell, with pay?  Was there a review, a discussion with Bucknell, was there, are there files or documents?

Selectman Turner:            She wasn’t attending at, present at, that meeting.

Selectman Brazie:            Right.

Mr. Swanson:            Did you decide in the meeting?

Selectman Turner:            Yes, we did.

Selectman Flynn:            Yes, we did.

Mr. Swanson:            Okay.  Why did you not go through a more formal process that would be [Inaudible].

Selectman Turner:            What would have been the formal process?

Mr. Swanson:            Pardon me?

Selectman Turner:            What would have been the formal process?

Mr. Swanson:            Well, normally, in, in—

Selectman Turner:            We initiated an investigation at that time.

Mr. Swanson:            After suspending her.

Selectman Turner:            Yes, and that’s the formal process that—

Mr. Swanson:            Why did you decide to suspend her based on a complaint from her employees rather than discuss it with her?

Selectman Brazie:            ’Cause it wasn’t a single complaint, actually.  There were several complaints.

Mr. Swanson:            Presented simultaneously?

Selectman Brazie:            Yes.

Speaker:            Mm hm.

Speaker:            Yeah.

Selectman Brazie:            Along with the vote of no confidence.

Selectman Turner:            I think we had the full there—

Mr. Swanson:            She thought that was the full story [Inaudible].

Selectman Turner:            With a full group of officers it was, it was either we had a police department or we had a chief.  I don’t think there was a, and I think it was a—

Mr. Swanson:            So, the people, the officers who presented the petition, the vote of no confidence were ready to resign their positions?

Selectman Turner:            I think they were.

Mr. Swanson:            They made that clear?  Explicit?

Selectman Turner:            Explicit.

Mr. Swanson:            Explicit.

Selectman Turner:            They were here that night in force.  Every member of the police department.

Mr. Swanson:            So, it was a simple, “If you don’t suspend her immediately, we’re resigning our positions”?

Selectman Flynn:            What we did is we took the information that the officer provided to us.  We had some information already that we thought was pertinent including a most current eval and we had also consulted with our attorney to determine if—

Mr. Swanson:            Before you suspended her?

Selectman Flynn:            Yes.

Mr. Swanson:            Okay.

Selectman Flynn:            We consulted with our attorney and determined that the best process to follow was to suspend her with pay pending an investigation.  Which is exactly what we did.  Mary had spoken with counsel during the day or maybe it was me that spoke with counsel.

Selectman Brazie:            I think it was you.  I was—

Selectman Flynn:            It was me.  Because I had heard that something like this would take place, and I asked counsel as to the best process to follow and that’s what counsel suggested.  And that’s the process that we followed.

Mr. Swanson:            From a business perspective, it’s an extremely peculiar process.

Selectman Flynn:            This is not New York State.  This is the State of Massachusetts.  This is the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

Mr. Swanson:            My experience is not in New York State.

Selectman Flynn:            Let me finish.

Mr. Swanson:            Yeah.

Selectman Flynn:            You’ve had your chance to talk.

Mr. Swanson:            I don’t know why you say that.

Selectman Flynn:            Let me finish.  This is the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and what we try to do is afford her every opportunity, including the opportunity to be at that meeting.  She chose not to be at that meeting.  For whatever reason, we do not know.

Mr. Swanson:            I’m wondering why you assume that my business experience was in the State of New York.

Selectman Turner:            Okay, this is not a conversation—

Selectman Flynn:            We’re not having a conversation about this.

Selectman Turner:            This is between us and the board, and the board made a decision.

Selectman Flynn:            I realize you like to carp about things, as you have accused me in the past, okay?  But we’ll talk about it afterwards, okay?

Mr. Swanson:            Okay.

Selectman Turner:            It was a decision the board—

Selectman Flynn:            We made it as a board.

Selectman Turner:            The board made it based on issues that culminated that night with a vote of no confidence.  There have been some issues prior to that, it was, there was—

Mr. Swanson:            Just to be clear, I’ve never met Reena Bucknell.  I don’t know anything about her.

Selectman Turner:            Okay, well, there was a lot of behind the scenes stuff that not a lot of people are aware of that we were, that culminated that night with that.  It wasn’t just that night that we decided to do it.  There was, there was—

Selectman Flynn:            Fourteen years and sixty officers.

Selectman Turner:            Not only that, but we had—

Mr. Swanson:            Compared to what?

Selectman Turner:            We had just hired two new officers that were extremely qualified or had been on the job for three or four months and we’d had a meeting prior to that night in which we tried to iron out some of the issues and found it kind of tense, at best.

Mr. Swanson:            Yes.

Selectman Turner:            And then a lot of things fell into place after that, that resulted in what we did.  I think there’s a lot more to it than just the vote of no confidence that night.  There were some other things that were happening behind the scenes.

Selectman Flynn:            When we tried to get close to particular facts and particular situations, there was a tendency of the chief to want to change the subject or move on to something else.  And we got close to some issues that really should have been discussed and she was more anxious in closing the meeting and moving on to a training session.  I think every effort was made to give the chief an opportunity to discuss it, and we’re still willing to have a public meeting with the chief.  If the chief chooses to do that, we will be more than happy to have that public meeting so that she can address each and every one of those charges.  We want this to be, and what we have tried to do, is keep this whole process as open and honest as we possibly could.  It’s a tough thing to do, but I think one of the things that this board has done is we made that report available as soon as we possibly could.  We went through to three counsels in order to ensure it got done.  We went to the district attorney, we went to our own attorney, and also we went to the attorney general to ensure it was something that we could release because we felt it was something that the town and the community needed to know.  Now we’re going on to the next step.

Selectman Turner:            So, anybody else?  Yes.

Male Speaker 4:            I was there at that meeting where all the officers were there and the complaints were issued and Charlie himself made statements that you could not get in contact with the chief so she was not available for being there.  Where’s the inconsistency there?

Selectman Flynn:            Do you have those notes written down somewhere?

Selectman Turner:            That’s, no.  It was an open meeting and she could have attended that night.  We did not know exactly what was going to happen that night, nor did we orchestrate what happened that night, but that’s, you know, that’s—

Male Speaker 4:            Charlie did know, he said.

Selectman Turner:            Maybe Charlie knew but—

Selectman Flynn:            [Inaudible] to be at the meeting.  That’s the only thing I can tell you.

[SEVERAL PEOPLE TALKING AT ONCE.]

Male Speaker 4:            After everybody else went away, you were here [Inaudible].

Selectman Turner:            Yeah, okay, we’re not here to discuss that.

Selectman Flynn:            We’re not here to discuss it.  I mean, if you can give me the exact recording of what I said.

Selectman Turner:            I mean, this is, this is—

Selectman Flynn:            I’m happy to stand up to it.

Selectman Turner:            This is an issue that we dealt with.

Speaker:            You want evidence.

Speaker:            You got it.

Selectman Turner:            We dealt with that night the best we thought we could and, and we’re, and we’ll—

Speaker:            Otherwise [Inaudible] will be okay.

Speaker:            You do that pretty well, Mr. Zorick.

Speaker:            We’re not here to discuss it, fair enough, but you are here to answer citizens’ questions.

Selectman Turner:            Yes, we are.  And we are working our way through the process here, and we made a determination that night that that was the best interest of the community to do what we did and I think that it will bear out that that was, in fact, the case.  And that’s what we get elected to do.  You guys have anything, town officials?  No town officials?  I’ve moved on to town officials.

Selectman Brazie:            Oh, you did?

Selectman Turner:            He didn’t raise his hand on time.  Are you a town official?

Male Speaker 5:            I just have one question, though, and that’s how long a process is this going be, take until it’s finished?

Selectman Turner:            It’s going to take until it’s finished.  I don’t know how long the pro—

Male Speaker 5:            We retain the acting chief and keep going on and paying—

Selectman Turner:            We are going through due process, and due process sometimes takes time.  And it’s not a cheap deal.  But we’re going to come out of this with the proper result in the best interest of the community.  And that’s all I can say right now.  We’ve released the report and we’re moving forward.  You guys have nothing?

Speaker:            I don’t have anything.

Selectman Turner:            Don’t have nothing.

Speaker:            For once.

Selectman Turner:            Okay.  Part-time officers.  We have a couple of guys you’ve brought before us to appoint.

Selectman Brazie:            We did.  Bill Tighe asked me today, though, if we would hold off on this.  He has been unable to verify some references.

Selectman Flynn:            I move to defer the appointments.

Selectman Turner:            Until our next meeting.  Are we meeting next week?

Selectman Brazie:            We are scheduled to meet next week, yes.

Selectman Turner:            Okay.  Let’s meet next week.

Speaker:            Sorry.

Selectman Turner:            Police department issues.  We already discussed them.

Selectman Brazie:            Well, yes and no.

Selectman Turner:            What have we got, Mary?

Selectman Brazie:            Well, as you know, Bill Tighe and myself and a full time officer interviewed a couple of possible candidates for an interim part-time administrative acting police chief and somewhere, did he send you, did Bill Tighe send you an email?

Selectman Turner:            Yes, he did.

Selectman Brazie:            So, I interviewed the two, and, and I guess, you know, one question is, does the board feel that two are enough?  More than two people, these two people, actually, were not contacted by the town.  They contacted the town and expressed their interest, but people that have been contacted by the town for various reasons are walking away.  So, now we’ve done these interviews and we have these two candidates and the first question that I would ask is, is the board ready to act on this, or do you want more follow-up on it?

Selectman Flynn:            Okay, I put my foot in my mouth all night long so I might as well not stop, huh?

Selectman Brazie:            Sure, why not, Charlie?

Selectman Flynn:            My feeling is that when we suspended the chief we appointed an officer in charge and then we engaged in a management study.  What we’ve gotten for the first time in about 14 years is some real, we’ve got some morale.  We look like we have a police department that’s working together and currently the officer in charge, acting chief, whatever he is, is making patrolman’s pay, he’s getting paid patrolman’s pay to do the job.  Of the two people that were interviewed, I’ve seen the evaluation based on that and Bill Tighe sent to me, and I find, you know, I like Brian Shaw.  You know he’s local, and I think he’s good.  But again we’re talking 20 hours a week at $20 an hour.  And what are we going to ask that person to do?  Are we going to ask that person to run the department?  Are we going to ask that person to follow through on the management study?  What is a role that person’s going to fill?  We have an officer in charge already who is taking steps, I think, to correct some of the issues that have been cited as problems in the management study.

So, the question I think we have to ask ourselves, if we’re going to hire somebody new, or somebody that’s not currently on the police department, what is the specific guidance that we’re going to provide to that particular person?  Are they going to be an acting chief?  If they’re going to be an acting chief, what are they going to do?  And then the next question is, who or what or how do we address this management study that we paid $10,000 for but gave us additional work to do?  Who’s going to take care of that?  And then who’s going to report to the select board and then ultimately to the town?  Because I really believe that we owe it to the town to tell them not only what the issue was, but then how we’re going to address that issue.  And then I think the third process down the line is, what is our plan for the future police department?  We were, in a sense, told one thing in November by our current chief, Bucknell, about the cost of hiring additional officers.  And it turns out that that may not be the case.

So, we have to ask ourselves, what are we going to present to the town, to the people of the town, in terms of what is the makeup of our department going to be, and then how much is it going to cost the taxpayers to have that particular type of makeup.  So, I think we’ve got a couple of issues that we really have to address, because just appointing somebody and not giving that person any guidance as to how we want to proceed we really have not done anything.

Selectman Brazie:            I agree that we need to come up with some clear delineation of the roles, but do we agree that we need to have some sort of an acting chief here?

Selectman Flynn:            Oh, I agree.

Selectman Brazie:            Oh, okay, because I thought I might have been hearing—

Selectman Flynn:            No.

Selectman Brazie:            —hearing something different.

Selectman Turner:            So, it sounds to me like we’re not really ready to do anything tonight.

Selectman Brazie:            So, when are we going to be ready, because here we are now, you know, two months out from making this move and—

Selectman Turner:            Let’s take a time this week to come up with what we think is a job description, a description of duties that we’d like this person to perform.

Selectman Brazie:            And do we do that on our own, or do we get together and meet and do that.

Selectman Turner:            Well, I would recommend that you and Bill get together and, [Inaudible] to delegate.  And then fire it off to us and then we can [Inaudible], because I think we really need to do, you know, let them do the upper level stuff.  I’m not sure, you know.  Maybe manage the investigation but not necessarily have to do all the day-to-day management of the department.  I think we have people capable of doing that right now.

Selectman Brazie:            I agree.

Selectman Turner:            And I really don’t want to interfere with that too much with what’s going on there right now.  That’s my thought.  I don’t know, what you think, Charlie?

Selectman Flynn:            Well, let me just throw this out, okay, because I really agonized over this, I’ve thought about this a lot.  That I may be the lone wolf of the group.  There’s been a lot of misinformation that’s circulated through town about what the current police department is doing.  I’ve had comments made about the humvees, the assault rifles and everything [Inaudible].  And let me clarify that a little bit.  We were offered an opportunity to partner with the state police that has access to certain military surplus items which the town can choose to take advantage of or not take advantage of.  And that ultimately is a decision that’s make by the select board in an open meeting.  It’s not made by the police department, but it’s made by the board of select and that’s part of the whole process.  It is something where military-issue items are made available to the state police, and the state police then screen them out to the various police agencies throughout the state.  Those police agencies then go through their boards of select and the select members either say yea or nay and then if they go back in and it’s on a first-come-first-serve basis.  What I’ve seen since this whole situation started is that each and every one of our police officers act with the utmost, utmost professionalism and courtesies towards everybody in town, and if they haven’t, I would like to know about it.

We have Officer Palone, who’s been acting as the officer in charge, and, essentially, been functioning as the interim chief and what I would like to propose before the selectmen and I don’t think we need to decide upon this but I’m going to throw this in tonight, is that we consider appointing Officer Palone as the Interim Chief at his current salary and then appointing Officer Carlson, in addition to his normal duties, as Chief Investigation Officer of the management report, because he is a certified detective, and also a certified trainer in the State of Massachusetts, to investigate and report to the board of selectmen on a weekly basis or at each and every one of our meetings until such time as we have been able to resolve the issues that have been identified within the management report.  Again, it’s not a motion, it’s just a suggestion.

Selectman Turner:            Yes, sir.

Speaker:            I recall that this issue of appointing an interim chief came up at a select board meeting, and the impression I got, and I didn’t take notes, was that this was the suggestion or request of one or more of the outside agencies that had been consulted, the District Attorney, or the Attorney General, or somebody of that ilk.  Now, I, I’ve just, if that’s the case, then wouldn’t their reasons for making that suggestion constitute the heart of a job description for such a person and, if that’s not the case, I’ve got it all wrong, then I wonder why, then, you should consider an outside person at all.  I mean, I can see why the state might make such a recommendation, but I’m not 100% sure in my own mind that they did.  I may have misheard them.

Selectman Brazie:            No, actually a state office did make that recommendation as well as the consulting firm that did our management study and our legal counsel.  All three of them made the same recommendations for very valid reasons, I feel.  So, we’ll go from here, I guess, and—

Selectman Turner:            I think we’ll—

Selectman Brazie:            —pull together—

Selectman Turner:            I hate to say it, but let’s put together some job descriptions and duties and responsibilities and be ready to do things.  And if we can find nothing against the two that we interviewed but if somebody else pops up, I’d like to interview them, too.  Okay?

Selectman Brazie:            Mm hm.

Selectman Turner:            Okay, with you, Charlie?

Selectman Flynn:            Works for me.

Selectman Turner:            Then we’ll do, deal with that next Monday.

Selectman Brazie:            Okay.

Selectman Turner:            Do we have any selectmen’s items?

Selectman Brazie:  I do.  May meetings, as you know it’s town meeting, it’s the first week of May, right?


                                 

Is There a Limit to Arrogance?

Some recent developments that you may not be aware of:

1.  Reappointments to town boards and committees are usually routine.  If you're on a board and indicate you'd like to continue, it's rare for the selectboard to say no, unless you've been arrested or moved out of town or have been declared insane.  But you might not get reappointed if the people on the selectboard don't like you, as evidenced by Laura's reappointment to the finance committee.  She was reappointed by a vote of 3 to 2.  The two "no" votes were Turner and Brazie.  Neither gave any explanation of their vote, and I am not aware of even the slightest serious criticism of her performance by those two or anyone else.  So why did they vote no?  You decide.  I can think of two possibilities:  Childlike retribution for my incessant criticism of the selectboard's performance; and fear of the upcoming water department audit and what it might lead to.

2.  Amy Lane, the town accountant, gave notice some time ago that she was not going to continue.  The selectboard has supposedly been looking for a replacement.  I think you or I could find multiple applicants in less than a week, but of course we'd actually have to try by, say, looking in the yellow pages or making a few phone calls.  The selectboard's "search" didn't turn up anyone, so they decided - wait for it - wait for it - THEY HIRED BRUCE TURNER AS TOWN ACCOUNTANT!

3.  With Bob Climo's unexpected resignation from the finance committee, and Kevin Zurrin's removal, there were two vacancies to fill.  Now you might think that the selectboard would turn to the members of the finance committee and ask them who they would support for those vacancies.  You would be wrong.  The selectboard engineered the two appointments without ever consulting the finance committee.  That's why the two finance committee members on the appointing committee voted against one of the selectboard's choices.   Do you think that bothers the selectboard?  Yeah, right.

Police?

Be certain to read Kevin's most recent blog posting (eyeonegremont.blogspot.com) on the chaos surrounding the police department and the selectboard's mishandling of it.   The comments to his posting are even more revealing.

Setting the Record Straight

          My letter to the editor of the Record about Charlie Flynn's accusations against me and Laura was published in today's paper.  It's set forth below.  Mary Brazie didn't like the implication in the letter that she was the one "burying" the anonymous letter about Pilone.  She says she did make copies of the letter, gave copies to the selectmen and left copies on the table for the Finance Committee meeting that took place later that day.  But she was told that Flynn took them off the table after she had left the building! 

         Charlie, want to respond?

"To the editor-

          "The Record of two weeks ago quoted Egremont Selectman Charlie Flynn castigating me for “imposing” on the Egremont town hall staff and castigating my wife Laura for not “having good judgment,” presumably because she married me.   The quotes were so off the wall that I thought your reporter had misquoted Flynn, but he didn’t respond to an email inquiry from me asking what he really said, so I assume the quotes were accurate.

"The Egremont Finance Committee, chaired by my wife, prepares a detailed report and recommendations on the financial items in the warrant for each town meeting (and this year a separate report on the water department) and tries to get it into the hands of the voters at least a week before the meeting.  This year the Selectboard  kept changing its numbers after the warrant had been issued, so the report had to be changed to keep up with that, and it therefore was going to be late.  During the last week before the town meeting, almost all the Finance Committee members – including Laura - were out of town, so I was enlisted as essentially a secretary – not something I was terribly happy about - to put the reports together and get them to town hall for copying, which I dutifully did.  Flynn characterized this as “the husband of the chairman of the Finance Committee going to Town Hall to make copies of the 47-page report for the Finance Committee,” which was “not fair” to the staff because it was “an inordinate amount of paper.”  I guess he thinks the citizenry should do with shorter, less informative reports. 

"Either Flynn or your reporter are confused about another document, a multi-page anonymous letter to Egremont Police Officer Jeremy Pilone, a copy of which was attached to an April 30 email from an Egremont voter addressed to the Selectboard, the Finance Committee and two members of the organizing committee of One Egremont. Sending it to the town makes it a public document, of course, but someone at town hall apparently decided to bury it (and somebody ought to ask why) because Mary Brazie never made a copy for the Finance Committee, whether or not she distributed it to anyone else.  Flynn somehow thinks I included the letter in the reports I delivered to town hall for copying, which, if true, would make me really, really stupid, but even Flynn can’t go that far in his wild and misguided accusations.

"Your reporter told me after the Kevin Zurrin removal proceeding that he thought Kevin should have checked his sources.  The Record should start following its own advice."

    

Your Property Values in Egremont

I got the following email today.  The citizens and taxpayers of Egremont should know that the value of their properties is adversely affected by the complete breakdown of good government at town hall.

"It seems to me that somehow the people of Egremont should do something to regain control of the management responsibilities of the town.  As you know, we have sold our property and are searching for a new residence.  We have seen several attractive options in Egremont, but are not considering them because of this nonsense.  A miserable performance for a lovely community.  Good luck and regards, Herb."

Transcript of Selectboard Meeting that Ousted Bucknell

Here's the transcript.  Note how quickly they acted to suspend Bucknell, and only then tried to figure out what to do next.  Also note all the indications that this didn't come as a surprise to the selectboard.  There's something rotten in Denmark.

 

 

Officer Pilone:            Jeremy Pilone Police Officer Town of Egremont presenting each of you with signed affidavits and some evidence to support the whole reason that we are here tonight, and if you would I would like to read some documents that we have prepared.  Last week we met as the Police Officer’s Union for this town to hold a vote of no-confidence in Chief Bucknell.  This is based on several months, and which I found out to be years, of dwelling issues within the police department that have resulted in a lot of discord, failure to act, many issues that we are now dealing with.  There’s been a serious divide that has been occurring between all of us as police officers and the Chief, which I believe was mostly to her own doing.  After all the meetings and complaints and issues that we had, we met to discuss this vote of no-confidence.  This was last week on February the 14th.  It passed unanimously with all officers casting their vote.  Based on that, we all submitted information documents, if you will, to Mr. Tighe, the personnel director, stating all of our claims individually.  If you don’t mind I’d like to read the majority of mine just to give you an idea of what the back story is here.  Since I became employed by Egremont Police Department in November of 2012, I have noticed several serious issues that have become extremely problematic over the last few months.  Originally I was promised the world and led to believe that if I accepted the police officer position that “I would become the next Chief of Police in Egremont.”   Knowing that this was my career path goal, Chief Bucknell sold me this vision only to change it shortly thereafter.  Once employed I was told, “I will be the new supervisor to help define a rank structure for this agency.”  I later found out that this too was a farce.  This all began during the hiring process when Chief Bucknell would call me several times during the day and night to chat, if you will.  These chats were filled with disparaging remarks about the current Egremont police officers, select Board members and other applicants for the position.  I found it odd that Chief Bucknell was so candid with me being that she had never met me and had only spoken to me briefly over the telephone.  I felt that this was a sign of things to come.  The issues began once I arrived at Egremont for my interview.  I was sequestered from my only competition─who happened to be Officer Carlson who was later hired─and only allowed to meet the only other full time officer, Officer Reise, for a brief second because she “didn’t want him to get bent out of shape because I was more experienced than him.”  Once appointed and working, I was given very odd shifts and told that it was result of “being plugged into the preexisting schedule.”  I was assured that this would change in December and the following months.  The pattern continued for every month and has not yet normalized.  Additionally, Chief Bucknell went to great lengths to keep me away from other members of the agency.  I was routinely told to either leave early or report late, because she “had it covered” or “had someone coming in for an interview or appointment,” which never happened.  This ultimately left the town without police presence for an undetermined amount of time on a routine basis.  When I inquired as to when I would meet the other officers in the department she jokingly replied “I don’t want you to become like them and gang up on me.”  I pressed the issue and was finally allowed to start meeting the others but only under her watchful eye and supervision.  During any downtime, I was routinely given information on the other officers and town employees and told not to trust them.  All of this information was negative and usually personal in nature.  Considering the fact that I was new, on probation and had no reason not to trust Chief Bucknell, I believed everything that I was told and began to resent the other officers and majority of the town employees.  It was only after speaking to officers Carlson and Reise about the bounty of innuendo and rumors that I realized that this was an effort of Chief Bucknell to put the members of these agencies against each other.  Never in my 20 years of law enforcement experience have I seen a supervisor go through such great lengths to divide and conquer an agency.  Additionally, I had never been made to feel so disrespected and demoralized because of the chief’s poor and non-existent leadership style and extreme micro-management.  Once I started my own investigation into the Chief’s odd behavior and inconsistent statements, I uncovered some very interesting information.  It helped me understand why these issues were occurring.  First, I was lead to believe that Officer Reise was to blame for the inconsistent schedule.  When in fact it was due to the Chief basing her own schedule around a teaching job at Berkshire Community College, which she vehemently denies having, even though she is listed as the criminal justice program director and we also discovered that there has been many pay issues as well through mass general loss.  I’m sorry, through the mass public records law websites.  Secondly, she had been also telling Officer Carlson and Officer Reise the same things about this new supervisory position, thus setting us up for an altercation and hostility towards one another.  Lastly, she forced my hand to act when I did not want to by way of fear, intimidation and a false sense of entitlement, i.e., speaking in her defense during town meetings and other settings.  Also, I’m going to interject here, through speaking with other officers and also into some other investigations that came to light, there have been numerous allegations of misappropriation of town funds and services as well.  All that information is included in the documents that I had provided to you.  Based on this, the Chief has effectively created a hostile working environment for all the officers in which the unity and brotherhood that are commonly found and encouraged in all law enforcement agencies has been completely destroyed.  I routinely feel ill reporting for duty because of the constant barrage of lies, misinformation and drama I may face while walking through the door.  It is disheartening to be a member of this agency that is the brunt of jokes from other law enforcement agencies in the area which view the Egremont police as the laughing stock and an unprofessional department.  This is largely attributed to the actions of the Chief and the extremely high turnover rate once again attributed to her lack of leadership.  I made this commitment to the town and to the citizens to protect and serve here.  Thus far, I have performed my duties with integrity and pride only to be lied to and made feel like a second class citizen.  I believe that we as the Egremont police officers owe it to the town to ensure that the agency receives a much needed overhaul so that our job can be performed without interference, micro-management and hostility.  This is why I voted in favor of the vote of no-confidence in Chief Bucknell last week.  I feel that this agency is on the verge of a major breakthrough and could be a great place to work as opposed to a breeding ground for other agencies and the black sheep of Berkshire County law enforcement.  I will gladly do my part to make sure that this effort is not in vain.  Just to let you know, I have been appointed, if you will, to speak for the members of the agency, so I know I have all their support and if we can do anything to provide any documentation or any other statements, I will gladly do that for you. 

Selectman Flynn:            Just to give the people in the audience a little bit of background, Officer Pilone retired after 19 years, 20 years on the Miami-Dade police force.  Officer Carlson came to us after 15 years on several other departments full-time serving as detective, lieutenant and in other supervisory roles.  Two very, very experienced police officers.  We were able to hire both of these gentlemen with the assistance of the finance committee back in November.  And what they did is they really, they rounded out what was already a very good, but sometimes overtaxed, part-time force.  And now gives us in Egremont full-time protection.  24/7 protection.  I’ve also read each and every one of the memos from the other officers including Officer Pilone’s, and I find the charges that they make to be quite serious.  And I don’t take those charges lightly.  And they warrant further investigation. 

Selectman Brazie:            Some of this information is coming to me new tonight because I’ve been involved in an issue for about a week and a half that kept me out of the office.  I would like to apologize for any part that this Board has had and the difficulties that the officers of this town have had.  I would like to make a motion, at this time, that we suspend our police chief, with pay, remove her from her duties while an investigation takes place and that the investigation take place no longer than two weeks from tonight.  And, as well, I think she should be asked to turn in her keys for that two-week time period. 

Selectman Flynn:            I second that motion.

Chairman Turner:            Approving this motion.   I’m just gonna say, this puts us all in an awkward and very uncomfortable situation here guys. 

Officer Pilone:            Agreed.

Chairman Turner:            And I know this is, I’m sure, difficult for you because effectively we have mutiny.  If you want to call it that.  A difficult situation for us because we have to investigate our long-serving Police Chief.  However, we have to do the difficult things.  And I’m not sure how this is gonna fall out into place here because obviously the Chief’s not here and she’s entitled to due process and we will have to go through that due process and I hope you’re able to assist us in that due process.

Officer Pilone:            Most definitely.

Chairman Turner:            I’m looking at all of you guys because this is not gonna be fun for any of us.

Officer Pilone:            Well I would like to say that I think for the first time in many years, in the history of this agency, we have effectively become a united effort here.  We are, I think as close as any other squad or unit that has been through this agency and I think that’s due on behalf of everybody here from police department that this has given a new spark of life into the agency.  And I hope it’s a sign of good things to come.

Chairman Turner:            Do you guys have any more discussion?  I don’t know how we are going to make this play out, but all those in favor?

All:                               Aye.

 

Selectman Flynn:            Mr. Chairman, I think the one thing I’m gonna need to do is we’re gonna need to appoint a temporary chief.

Chairman Turner:       Do we do an officer in charge?

Selectman Flynn:        Or an officer in charge, which may be better, appoint a temporary officer in charge, we’re going to have to draft a letter and deliver that letter to the Chief identifying what we have done and the vote that was taken and the reason for the vote.

Chairman Turner:            I think it’s gonna have to be more than a letter. 

Selectman Flynn:            Probably will.

Chairman Turner:            Somebody’s gonna have to go face-to-face.

Selectman Brazie:            And how could you do?

Selectman Flynn:            The Chairman does that.

All:                               Laughter

 

Chairman Turner:            I’ll do it, if you want me to.

Selectman Brazie:            And how quickly, I mean is that something that gets done tonight?

Chairman Turner:            Well hopefully.  The vote is in tonight, then it really should happen immediately if not sooner but quicker.

Selectman Brazie:            I have a couple of questions I want to ask the officers actually.  Do you have any fear that there’s going to be retaliation from this move?

Officer Pilone:               Most definitely.

 

Selectman Brazie:            Okay.  And do you have a recommendation on who is appointed acting in charge of whatever name it is that we would like to give it.

Officer:                         Yes, I think we’ve all effectively come together and appointed Officer Pilone as our spokesperson and our chosen leader.

 

Selectman Brazie:            Thank you.

Chairman Turner:            So I guess somebody ought to make a motion to that effect too.

Selectman Flynn:            I move to appoint Officer Pilone, temporary officer-in-charge of the Egremont Police Department during the suspension of Chief Bucknell.

Selectman Brazie:            Second.

Chairman Turner:            All those in favor?

All:                               Aye.

 

Selectman Flynn:            Thank you.  You now got the responsibility.  You now have the headache and you don’t get any pay for it either.

Officer Pilone:            I understand, thank you very much.

Chairman Turner:            We got to let things play out here.  But we have to, we being the Board, have to hold a hearing.  There’s due process.  So we have to figure out how we’re gonna do this.

Female Speaker:            Also, we should probably generate something for the media so things don’t get misconstrued.

Chairman Turner:            Things are gonna get misconstrued.

Female Speaker:            I know.

Chairman Turner:            This is not gonna be good.  This is gonna be, this is going to turn the town inside out.  This is not gonna be pretty. 

Selectman Flynn:        This is not gonna be fun.

Kevin Zurrin:            Takes the heat off of me.

All:                               Laughter

 

Selectman Brazie:            All right.  So to get back to this seriously.  Action needs to be taken tonight.  What is that action going to be?

Chairman Turner:            I think when we get done with this meeting we’re gonna have to make a phone call.  At the conclusion of our meeting tonight.

Male Speaker:              Mr. Chairman

 

Chairman Turner:            Yes.  But I think it might not have any effect.

Male Speaker:            I have to make a serious suggestion that you get in touch with the Town Council very quickly.

Selectman Brazie:            We’ve actually tried to do that.  Unfortunately our Town Council is away on vacation.

                                    [All speaking at the same time.]

 

Chairman Turner:            We have got a lot of work to do.  We have to do, I think, a notification.

Selectman Brazie:            So how do you accomplish that with someone who lives out of the area, quite frankly?  She lives in Otis.

Chairman Turner:            We’ll call her at home.  Say something.  You’ve got your hand up.

Male speaker:               Well, you didn’t say nothing.  I see you have an executive session police union contracts there.  Why don’t you . . .

 

Male Speaker:              Not everybody has to know all this stuff.

Selectman Brazie:            Because?

Selectman Flynn:            We can’t do it.

Male Speaker:            It’s got to be public.

Officer Pilone:               I just want to reiterate to the Board that all of us, me and the police officers, we’re definitely able and willing to assist in any way possible regardless of whether it’s, I mean . . .  I understand that you wanted to make the face-to-face and I appreciate that and I think that would make a nice statement.  Regardless, we are here to assist the Board in any way possible.

 

Selectman Flynn:            I think what we have to do is draft a notification on what is actually required by the law.  That she has been suspended with pay.

Selectman Brazie:            Bill is that something that you could be working on while we’re finishing up our meeting?

 

Bill:            Yes.

Selectman Brazie:            Okay.

Selectman Flynn:            And I think it needs to be drafted, signed tonight and delivered to her. 

Selectman Brazie:            I agree.

Chairman Turner:            Okay.  I’ll give them a draft and we are going to continue on with our meeting.  Would you guys hang around for a little bit?

Officer:                         We’ll be here, all of us.

 

Chairman Turner:            Okay.

Selectman Brazie:            Hans and Ed wanted to say something.

 

Chairman Turner:            Okay, yeah.

Officer Ed:                    Just so we’re all clear, maybe someone else covered this, but as officers, now clearly she’s been suspended, without [sic] pay.  Is there something if she tries to make contact, that we should be saying or doing [INAUDIBLE] if she calls?  Is there any statement you want us to make?  How do you want us to handle it?

 

Chairman Turner:            Any calls should be directed to . . . or me.

Officer Ed:                    So if she calls the station, just say please call ______________.

 

Chairman Turner:            Yes.

Officer Ed:                    Or if she comes here, on the off chance, so we just . . . not coming in . . . I just want to make sure we’re all clear on what she can and cannot do from here on out.

 

Selectman Flynn:            She should not, she should not be allowed within the police facility without an escort, and she should make arrangements ahead of time to get into the police facility and state specifically why she wants to come.  And she should not be allowed to leave with anything, cause we have, as of this moment, we have an ongoing investigation.

Male Speaker:            And that could be part of the draft letter to make sure that the point is very clear?

Selectman Flynn:            Yeah.  That has to be in the letter.

Male Speaker:            Okay.

Selectman Flynn:            We need her keys, the combinations to any of the cipher locks need to be changed.

Officer Hans:                My concern is we all know how the network of police chiefs work, in law enforcement, small town law enforcement especially in Berkshire County.  She’s very familiar with a lot of the people, other police chiefs, a lot of people and positions of powers, she’s demonstrated by bringing District, Assistant District Attorneys to meetings and things like that.  My concern is that if she’s still in possession of town property, identification badges, fire arms, things like that, that she could still be viewed as, during this time-frame when the investigation is occurring, as a police official, because a lot of times, a citizen or a layman who is presented with an ID or a badge or whatever, you know, somebody saying they’re police chief, they just believe it and take that as gospel, especially someone who’s been around as long as Ms. Bucknell has and I think I can effectively speak for everybody, there is a significant amount of fear that she will attempt to, you know, try to tarnish our reputations, or attempt to strike back or, you know, have some sort of retribution against us.  And I second what you said where, you know, her coming into the facility, she needs an escort and things like that, but there is, there’s a lot of things I think that—I’ve been through something similar to this before, where we need to account for, you know, things that are in the building, go through the evidence room, you know, and really take a very extensive inventory of things that are here, so that things do not disappear.

 

Selectman Flynn:            I don’t want to speak too much tonight, but I could add to Hans as well.  I mean what could potentially be in her personal possession in her home or wherever that is, that belongs to the town or is significantly _______ to the investigation.

Chairman Turner:            At this point in time, that’s the least of our concerns.  Because she’s just being investigated, nobody’s—there hasn’t been any charges brought, she hasn’t been relieved of her job, so there’s an investigation.  We have to do our due diligence.  On the other hand, Hanz’s thing, that’s something you signed up for, when you’ve came here tonight it’s gonna get ugly and she has a lot of power.  State, locally and it’s gonna get ugly.  We’ll stand behind as much as we can, everybody, because our job is to be as partial—impartial and fair as we can.  We’re doing this in the best interest of Egremont, but you got to understand that it’s gonna be ugly, and you may lose.  I hope, I hope we all come out winners in this, but it’s gonna be, you know, you signed up for this, you’re gonna have to expect some tough times in the next couple of days, weeks.  And I’m just being honest with you.

Officer:                         I certainly didn’t sign up for any of this.  I didn’t sign up for this type of harassment.

 

Chairman Turner:            No, I know.

Officer:                         I didn’t sign up for any of that but …

 

Chairman Turner:            We’ll do everything we can, beginning tonight, to help mitigate as much as we can, but this is, you know, dealing with a police chief, a long-time police chief, and any—is bad.

Female Speaker:            But you know what?  Excuse me for speaking.  Thank you all for coming and bringing this forward.  I respect everyone of you, you have a lot of—what’s the word I’m looking for, I’d hate to be in your shoes, and test and fortitude.

[Too many voices]

Female Speaker:            You guys really brought it to the forefront, but it had to have been coming for quite sometime, so I really appreciate it.  Do we ask for the badge while she is being investigated?

Selectman Brazie:            I think we have to ask for the badge.

Chairman Turner:            I think that’s pretty much what we’ve done here tonight.  The badge and the gun.

Selectman Flynn:            Badge, gun and keys.

 

Officer:                         Let me just make a suggestion too, as none of us part-timers have an ID, and as police officer a badge means absolutely nothing without an ID, so I think that it should be, just a suggestion, one of the things as well, because it doesn’t matter if you have a badge in your hand you just show your police ID and that’s who you are.

 

Male Speaker:              You don’t have ID?

Officer:                         No we told you we don’t have ID.

 

Officer:                         I don’t have an ID either.

 

Officer:                         Some full-timers don’t either, one does.

 

Chairman Turner:            You got to be kidding me.

Officer:                         If somebody asks me for my ID I by law have to show them my police ID.

 

Officer Pilone:            I’m still carrying my retired ID from Miami.

Chairman Turner:            Your first job as officer-in-charge is to get them IDs.

Officer Pilone:            Yes, sir.

Selectman Flynn:            Could I just say something?  I’ve been through this once before.  Nobody’s gonna come through this unscathed.  I will tell you that right now.  We are all gonna come out of this with a few black and blue marks.  And there may be a time during this whole process where you may ask yourself “What did I do this for?”  There will be light at the end of the tunnel.  You’re gonna come out of this, you may have a couple of black and blue marks, this will be a better police force and you will be better people for it.  There is no way in the world she has the power or the influence to disparage your reputations or your careers within the State of Massachusetts.  There are people that she is connected with.  There is also a very large group of people that she has become disconnected with.  So let’s go into this with our eyes open, deal only with the facts.  There can be zero innuendo.  There can be zero motion.  I know we’re proud to have you guys as our police officers, but we’re gonna go through a tough time for the next several weeks and maybe the next several months.  We don’t know, we don’t know how this person is gonna respond.  Please understand, deal with the truth, deal with the facts, take the emotion out of it, just be objective with everything we do.  Ultimately, we will get through this and it will be behind us.  But it’s gonna be a little while to get there. 

Officer Pilone:            Thank you sir, we appreciate that.

Selectman Brazie:            Bill, as well as drafting the letter, could you work up a media press release for us to look at?  Thank you.

Bill:            All right.

Chairman Turner:            That’s what you’re getting paid the big bucks for! 

Bill:            That’s right! [Laughter] 

Chairman Turner:            We have—what else do we need to do?

Selectman Brazie:            What we need to do?

Chairman Turner:            _____________________ contacting people.  This is not gonna go well.

Selectman Brazie:            No it’s not gonna go well.

[All speaking together.]

 

Chairman Turner:            And he’s smiling?

Selectman Brazie:            Ed before you leave if you don’t go out on a call, Charlie and I would like to speak to you about a different matter after the meeting.?

Chairman Turner:            Oh, I don’t get involved?

Selectman Brazie:            You’re welcome to listen.

Selectman Flynn:            You’re welcome to listen, you’ll like this one.

 

Chairman Turner:            Thank you, gentlemen. 

Selectman Flynn:            Watch your back

Male Speaker:            That’s why I wear a vest.

Chairman Turner: So do we have any other town officials who think we ________ bad-mouth _______?  New business.  I’d like to call aggregation.